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	<title>Comments on: Abortion and Christmas</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://seminaryblog.com/2008/03/25/abortion-and-christmas/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Pr. Stiegemeyer.  There are many ways to preach Luke 1 that get at this point.  For example, in the Visitation, John the Baptist (himself a "fetus") worships an "embryo"  This is perhaps the most remarkable act of worship in the history of the world.
You can follow Dr. Just's thoughts that while the Gospel begins in the temple, the Spirit of God moves from the temple building to Mary, making her womb the temple.

Anyhow, thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Pr. Stiegemeyer.  There are many ways to preach <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Luke+1" class="bibleref" title="ESV Luke 1" target="_new">Luke 1</a> that get at this point.  For example, in the Visitation, John the Baptist (himself a &#8220;fetus&#8221;) worships an &#8220;embryo&#8221;  This is perhaps the most remarkable act of worship in the history of the world.<br />
You can follow Dr. Just&#8217;s thoughts that while the Gospel begins in the temple, the Spirit of God moves from the temple building to Mary, making her womb the temple.</p>
<p>Anyhow, thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Annunciation&#8211;and Anti-Abortion&#8211;Day &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</title>
		<link>http://seminaryblog.com/2008/03/25/abortion-and-christmas/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Annunciation&#8211;and Anti-Abortion&#8211;Day &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For Christians, the Annunciation proves that human life begins with conception. Read this post from Scott Stiegemeyer and celebrate this anti-abortion [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For Christians, the Annunciation proves that human life begins with conception. Read this post from Scott Stiegemeyer and celebrate this anti-abortion [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Uphoff</title>
		<link>http://seminaryblog.com/2008/03/25/abortion-and-christmas/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Uphoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with Pr. Stiegemeyer.  

To any Christian who claims to be pro-choice one must simply ask: When did our Savior, Jesus Christ, become fully human?  

After six weeks?  In the third trimester?

The only answer consistent with Scripture and reason (as put forth in the Mathewes-Green quote above) is that it was at His *incarnation* that Jesus became man--a human being!

We confess in the Creeds that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit--not "the tissue mass that would later become Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit".  Such a belief would be a distortion and rejection of what the Church has historically understood to be the Incarnation of our Lord.  

To reiterate what Pr. Stiegemeyer said, Jesus' life on earth did not begin on the first Christmas--it began nine months earlier.  

God be praised for Christ's incarnation that would make possible His death and resurrection for all the sins of the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with Pr. Stiegemeyer.  </p>
<p>To any Christian who claims to be pro-choice one must simply ask: When did our Savior, Jesus Christ, become fully human?  </p>
<p>After six weeks?  In the third trimester?</p>
<p>The only answer consistent with Scripture and reason (as put forth in the Mathewes-Green quote above) is that it was at His *incarnation* that Jesus became man&#8211;a human being!</p>
<p>We confess in the Creeds that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit&#8211;not &#8220;the tissue mass that would later become Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit&#8221;.  Such a belief would be a distortion and rejection of what the Church has historically understood to be the Incarnation of our Lord.  </p>
<p>To reiterate what Pr. Stiegemeyer said, Jesus&#8217; life on earth did not begin on the first Christmas&#8211;it began nine months earlier.  </p>
<p>God be praised for Christ&#8217;s incarnation that would make possible His death and resurrection for all the sins of the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Heidenreich</title>
		<link>http://seminaryblog.com/2008/03/25/abortion-and-christmas/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Heidenreich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.  However, I would go further.  If you are going to talk about being pro-life you should expose the serious contradiction in being at the same time contraceptive.  To be pro-life means more than being anti-death.  

We also celebrate the conception of our Lord, at which time the Blessed Virgin Mary submitted herself to the will of God.  Those who take action against conception are being anti-life, not pro-life.  

I know this is not necessarily the place to argue this point.  We do plenty of that over at lutheransandcontraception.blogspot.com  Come join the discussion!  I just thought this related point worth adding to your excellent thoughts above.

&lt;em&gt;Erich Heidenreich's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://lutheransandcontraception.blogspot.com/2008/03/contraceptions-delorous-stroke.html' rel="nofollow"&gt;Contraception's "Dolorous Stroke"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.  However, I would go further.  If you are going to talk about being pro-life you should expose the serious contradiction in being at the same time contraceptive.  To be pro-life means more than being anti-death.  </p>
<p>We also celebrate the conception of our Lord, at which time the Blessed Virgin Mary submitted herself to the will of God.  Those who take action against conception are being anti-life, not pro-life.  </p>
<p>I know this is not necessarily the place to argue this point.  We do plenty of that over at lutheransandcontraception.blogspot.com  Come join the discussion!  I just thought this related point worth adding to your excellent thoughts above.</p>
<p><em>Erich Heidenreich&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://lutheransandcontraception.blogspot.com/2008/03/contraceptions-delorous-stroke.html' rel="nofollow">Contraception&#8217;s &#8220;Dolorous Stroke&#8221;</a></em></p>
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